Comments on: Known Associates http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/ For Aspiring New Media Titans Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:37:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Blog News Watch » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup - Week Ending August 10, 2007 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-300 Blog News Watch » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup - Week Ending August 10, 2007 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:37:55 +0000 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-300 [...] Does anyone else find this deja-vu-ish? “UK armed forces banned from blogging” . . . Blogger & Podcaster: Shelly asked some pointed questions about a dust-up in the podcasting community over standards and [...] […] Does anyone else find this deja-vu-ish? “UK armed forces banned from blogging” . . . Blogger & Podcaster: Shelly asked some pointed questions about a dust-up in the podcasting community over standards and […]

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]]> By: Peter Reynolds http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-296 Peter Reynolds Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:17:48 +0000 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-296 "Finally, this blog will not take a position in support of one industry trade group over another." Shelly, I had to laugh when I saw your statement. In the August issue of Blogger & Podcaster magazine, 4 entire pages were dedicated to a trade association called the International Blogging & New Media Association. Page 25: Ad for BlogWorld & New Media Expo, run by IBNMA Page 34-35: Ad and membership application for IBNMA Page 45: Column (or ad?) by the president of the IBNMA That is 4 full pages out of a 48 page magazine dedicated completely to one trade association. And each issue seems to be about the same. That's a lot of by any standard. So a couple questions, since you brought up the subject of neutrality: 1. Is IBNMA a paid advertiser of the magazine? 2. If the answer is yes, is that why their president gets a coveted columnist slot? 3. If the answer is no, then why is IBMNA getting so much space each month when there are so many other industry associations that would be happy to get the free coverage? 4. And is there any business relationship between your magazine and IBNMA and, if so, what is it? Thanks in advance for your addressing these questions. “Finally, this blog will not take a position in support of one industry trade group over another.”

Shelly, I had to laugh when I saw your statement. In the August issue of Blogger & Podcaster magazine, 4 entire pages were dedicated to a trade association called the International Blogging & New Media Association.

Page 25: Ad for BlogWorld & New Media Expo, run by IBNMA
Page 34-35: Ad and membership application for IBNMA
Page 45: Column (or ad?) by the president of the IBNMA

That is 4 full pages out of a 48 page magazine dedicated completely to one trade association. And each issue seems to be about the same. That’s a lot of by any standard.

So a couple questions, since you brought up the subject of neutrality:
1. Is IBNMA a paid advertiser of the magazine?

2. If the answer is yes, is that why their president gets a
coveted columnist slot?

3. If the answer is no, then why is IBMNA getting so much space each month when there are so many other industry associations that would be happy to get the free coverage?

4. And is there any business relationship between your magazine and IBNMA and, if so, what is it?

Thanks in advance for your addressing these questions.

]]> By: Scott Bourne http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-295 Scott Bourne Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:42:37 +0000 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-295 Shelly we have given people the opportunity to provide us with any information they want to. The survey has to have a starting point and an ending point - there has to be some goal post. You took one question, made it look like there were only two answers (when there are more than two since you can select a range) and you seem to have an issue that you decided to bring up in a blog post not when you had me on the phone. Strikes me that what you were doing wasn't out of a desire to be helpful. Hopefully, any bias you have against us won't transmit to the people reading the survey. Shelly we have given people the opportunity to provide us with any information they want to. The survey has to have a starting point and an ending point - there has to be some goal post. You took one question, made it look like there were only two answers (when there are more than two since you can select a range) and you seem to have an issue that you decided to bring up in a blog post not when you had me on the phone. Strikes me that what you were doing wasn’t out of a desire to be helpful. Hopefully, any bias you have against us won’t transmit to the people reading the survey.

]]> By: Shelly http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-294 Shelly Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:04:54 +0000 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-294 Hi Scott, Even if I had chosen to take a position FOR the group you're helping to organize, I would have felt it important to point out that some of the survey questions are leading. Because they are. And I don't think those particular questions will be helpful to you in gathering the information I know you want from the community about what they want from an industry association. People are smart. Give them open-ended questions and you'll attract more engaged, independent-minded folks who are motivated by all the great goals you espouse for the organization. Hi Scott,
Even if I had chosen to take a position FOR the group you’re helping to organize, I would have felt it important to point out that some of the survey questions are leading. Because they are. And I don’t think those particular questions will be helpful to you in gathering the information I know you want from the community about what they want from an industry association. People are smart. Give them open-ended questions and you’ll attract more engaged, independent-minded folks who are motivated by all the great goals you espouse for the organization.

]]> By: Scott Bourne http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-293 Scott Bourne Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:24:27 +0000 http://www.bloggerandpodcaster.com/theblog/2007/08/07/known-associates/#comment-293 Thanks for posting a link to the survey. It's unfortunate that you took one question on the survey - isolated it - and implied that it was somehow sinisterly devised to be leading. Hopefully your readers will take the entire survey and the opportunity to share whatever they like or don't like about our ideas regardless. And I truly hope you will take no position of support of one group over the other, but given the tenor of your post here, I am not sure I see total evidence of that promise. Thanks for posting a link to the survey. It’s unfortunate that you took one question on the survey - isolated it - and implied that it was somehow sinisterly devised to be leading. Hopefully your readers will take the entire survey and the opportunity to share whatever they like or don’t like about our ideas regardless. And I truly hope you will take no position of support of one group over the other, but given the tenor of your post here, I am not sure I see total evidence of that promise.

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